Curse

led-zep · Dec 17, 2006, 09:52 AM // 09:52

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Originally Posted by Hand of Ruin

Thread necromancy is truely an amazing phenomenon...

even more amazing when the point made to raise the thread from the dead hasnt even got anything to do with what the OP posted

Patrick Smit · Dec 17, 2006, 09:55 AM // 09:55

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Originally Posted by Shagsbeard

The problem is that the merchants are giving you exactly what the items are worth... nothing. That pisses players off because they expected a reward, but if nobody wants your stuff, they aren't going to buy it from you.

Gaile said that the prices are buy stuff at X, sell stuff at 4X, creating a 3X commision. She concluded erronously that each item would reach a stable fixed point. The only fixed point is when X=0 or X=infinity. So, no... the economy is not impossible to balance, it's just going to balance out at 0 to buy 0 to sell with no items in stock. Or buy for a lot, sell for a lot, and again, a very few items in stock. These are your only attractive fixed points.

What they need to do is fix the prices for the week. Then based on an average supply and demand, change the price by <10%. Currently the price is changed based on too small of a sample point. Prices should be stable for at least a day, and I'd suggest a week.

Your statement about stable points is mathematically incorrect, through iteration and assuming that certain parameters are constant it will establish a equilibrium or stable price. This not perse need to be 0 or infinitely high. I don't see the need to manage these markets so much. Basically i dont care much as supply and demand will always change depending on the "comission" that can be made. It would be utterly futile to try and stop the fundamental rules of free market. individuals selling items or materials would be "outlawed" in such a way. People will find ways to generate extraordinairy amounts of gold, and people like me see ways to waste their amount of gold (on skills or whatever).

If Anet doenst want to create a hyperinflating market then they should reduce the drops from monsters, in terms of gold and materials. But even that can have consequences i cant oversee. As long as people don't bot then I don't see the problem of having a vivid economy.

Lag Hell · Dec 17, 2006, 09:59 AM // 09:59

well hey, he searched and posted in a thread relevent to his interests, which happens to be mmorpg economy

Haakon · Dec 18, 2006, 06:05 AM // 06:05

Well, I do have a monk in Pre. He probably rezzed it...

One-time only though, because the only Pre res is the signet.

Matsumi · Dec 18, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Riotgear · Dec 18, 2006, 08:01 AM // 08:01

Oh God, took me two minutes to stop laughing over that mummy head.

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even more amazing when the point made to raise the thread from the dead hasnt even got anything to do with what the OP posted

Even more amazing is that the original post isn't even really valid any more. It's complaining about a patch which is almost a year and a half old. As usual, the only things that are actually expensive are prettier versions of the cheap crap, which means the economy is fine.

RTSFirebat · Dec 18, 2006, 10:46 AM // 10:46

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Originally Posted by Haakon

If you want a 100 hour story line, play Neverwinter Nights.

Beyond that, all I really want is an expert salvage and a map point north of the wall... in pre. And more pre to explore. It's prettier

And pre collector caster armor needs an upgrape... not a lot. 10 AL would rock.

Why on Earth did you bump up this long since dead thread? Its not been posted in for ages for a reason

hehe

Francis Crawford · Dec 18, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Plus ca change, plus ca meme chose.

And yes, any educated English speaker should know what that means.

Cjlr · Dec 18, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford

Plus ca change, plus ca meme chose.

And yes, any educated English speaker should know what that means.

That's «Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.» to an educated French speaker

.

Coridan · Dec 18, 2006, 07:44 PM // 19:44

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Originally Posted by Cjlr

That's «Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.» to an educated French speaker

.

And in AMERICAN ....(that's me) /end sarcasm

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose-The more things change the more more it stays the same..

Rok · Dec 19, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Why on Earth did you bump up this long since dead thread? Its not been posted in for ages for a reason

hehe

A mod complaining about thread necromancy?

Maybe the mods should "close" threads that are more than a month old, or have them close automatically after a month of no replies. A month is just a suggestion, maybe 2 weeks, 3, whatever.

Markaedw · Dec 20, 2006, 12:11 AM // 00:11

But then we get the "use the search, stupid" post.

You just can't win on a froum.

TheLordOfBlah · Dec 20, 2006, 02:53 AM // 02:53

ok im done with the pics now

MDeshame · Dec 20, 2006, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Kudos for a new member reading posts of an ancient time.
Smack all of you for flaming him.
Shoot all those that say use the search. Uh, hot off the press, newsflash, the search thing is the sorriest thing ever created.
Smack the thread necro for reving long dead threads
Smack all of us for posting in this thread.